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Enough already - Los Angeles Times

Posted: 28 Nov 2009 11:31 PM PST

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Talentless teens take UK by storm - Skynews.com

Posted: 28 Nov 2009 11:53 PM PST

Updated: 19:08, Sunday November 29, 2009

They are two starry-eyed, blond Irish teens who can't sing or dance but have taken Britain's most popular TV talent show by storm.

Since first appearing on The X Factor a few months ago, John and Edward Grimes - or Jedward, as the media have dubbed them - have made the country laugh, shriek in horror and cheer in their attempts reach the grand final.

Despite singing out of tune and dancing out of sync, Jedward managed to make it through to the last six acts, seeing off far more talented performers.

But their luck finally ran out last week when the judging panel - the show's creator, Simon Cowell, Australia's Dannii Minogue, band manager Louis Walsh and Girls Aloud singer Cheryl Cole - voted them off The X Factor.

And now I, and no doubt many of their fans, fear the show will be much duller for losing them.

For whatever Jedward's dubious talents, they certainly managed to surprise and entertain each week - whether it was dressing in red shiny suits as they (badly) sang and danced their way through Britney Spears's hit Oops! I Did It Again, rapped to Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice or donned grey overalls and goggles for a catchy rendition of Ghostbusters.

You might have grimaced in bewilderment at what they were doing and how they had progressed so far, but for some reason you couldn't take you eyes off them.

The 18-year-olds, who sport 8cm-high quiffs, have a boundless energy and an admirable ability to shake off the torrents of criticism, boos and abuse their critics have thrown at them.

Cowell initially described them as 'vile little creatures who would step on their mother's head to have a hit' and threatened to leave the country if they won.

Hundreds in the studio audience booed as they performed each week.

But it seems the twins will have the last laugh.

Cowell has managed to come round to the Jedward phenomenon, describing their Ghostbusters performance as 'sort of good' and stepped in to save them from being voted off the show a few weeks ago.

Celebrities including Paul McCartney and Robbie Williams are even fans.

There is now talk about bidding wars between publishers for their life story, gigs as kids TV show hosts, hair product endorsements as well as requests for concerts and personal appearances.

Their managers have even had to hire a private jet to ensure the boys keep up with their tight interview schedule in Britain and Ireland.

Some industry experts believe the boys could make STG2 million ($A3.6 million) in the next year alone - and they didn't even win the competition!

The twins say they are living their dream and want to carve out a career in music - after returning to high school to finish their exams.

While they weigh up their options, one thing is certain - The X Factor will never be the same without them.

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Simon Cowell targets X Factor-style politics debate - Daily Telegraph

Posted: 29 Nov 2009 12:14 AM PST

There have been numerous calls for a televised debate between the leaders of the main political parties in the run-up to the next general election, to boost voters' interest.

Music and TV mogul Cowell told the forthcoming issue of GQ magazine that there could be music and ''loads of spotlights'' to inject more ''fun'' into the proceedings.

Cowell is forging an entertainment empire with Arcadia retail boss Sir Philip Green, leading to speculation over the possibilities of Cowell winning back rights to existing programmes, developing new shows and forging merchandising deals.

Asked if the pair would entertain the idea of staging a debate between David Cameron and Gordon Brown, Cowell responded: ''I wouldn't mind doing it. Like the presidential debates in America. I'd like to produce that here. I would! Just for the hell of it! Make it a bit more fun.

''Like we have on The X Factor. Down the steps, and some music and loads of spotlights.''

But Sir Philip said he would ''probably not'' be interested.

Mr Brown signalled willingness to take part in a series of television debates with the other main party leaders in October.

Discussing his upcoming plans for shows, Cowell said: ''I never talk about them in advance, for obvious reasons.

''But there are a couple of things coming up.

''One of them non-music related that probably excites me more than anything I've ever done.''

The pair also spoke of plans to take The X Factor to Las Vegas.

''The plan is to take it to Vegas,'' Sir Philip said, later adding: ''We'll have a store. And it'll be online.

''You have 20, 30, 40 million people tuning in twice a week. You bring two or three hundred million viewers to a venue - off we go!

''It's taking it up a peg. The rest of the world is Part Two.''

He continued: ''Vegas is tailor-made for this show. To sing in Vegas? I mean, f****** hell. You get to the final 12 - your dream's come true.

''You're going to sing in Vegas!''

Cowell added: ''I like the model of what (motor racing boss) Bernie Ecclestone has done with F1.

''The Singapore race is as good as the French race is as good as the English race.''

He added: ''We've got to work out the rest of the territories. But Philip has showbusiness in his blood.

''He reminds me of one of those guys from the 30s. Louis Mayer. Or Jack Warner.''

Cowell also spoke of the popularity of Susan Boyle's Britain's Got Talent audition, which saw her rendition of I Dreamed A Dream viewed 100 million times in its initial days on YouTube - without any kickback for him.

''That will change,'' he told GQ. Because, eventually, if YouTube are not paying, they're not getting the clip.

''But at the moment I'm very happy to get promotion around the world. She'll sell 10 million albums this year because of YouTube.''

Cowell told GQ that a year ago he may have been interested in buying ITV ''just out of ego''.

Speaking about what they would do with the broadcaster, Cowell responded: ''Make better shows''.

Asked if there would be an X Factor game, Cowell said: ''We should have 20 games. If you've got a game that's worth more than our shows, and we're in 100 countries, something is a bit out of control.

''X Factor should have been the initial vehicle to have had (Guitar Hero publishers) Activision come to us and say: 'You've got all the traffic. Can you help launch Guitar Hero?'''

Cowell also described Robbie Williams' recent comeback performance on The X Factor, which received mixed reviews, as ''a bit like the Britney Spears performance. Something you would not be able to see anywhere else''.

He continued: ''With the expectations singers have, it's only when you go on that live show that you know if it's going to work,'' adding: ''And it sort-of worked.''

Cowell was propelled to household name status in 2001 with the launch of Pop Idol.

He told the magazine that the success of Popstars in 2000 made him ''mad''.

''I was so mad,'' he said. ''I thought: 'I've got to do something to retaliate. I want Popstars off the market. I want to be on the show that's going to kick it off the air.''

Sir Philip was asked if he planned to make Cowell richer than Oprah Winfrey.

''We'll give it a whirl,'' he said. ''You've got to be prepared to fight. And I think I'm prepared to scrap hard.''

On whether he thinks he and Cowell will be good partners, Sir Philip said: ''I think he can't do what I do, and I don't want to do what he does. Doesn't that made for a good partnership? He knows he's got someone who'll go into the battle, go fight the war for him.''

Despite Cowell and Sinitta having previously dated, their relationship remained unconsummated, according to the magazine.

Sinitta told GQ: ''He loved being stroked and petted on the head. 'Oh stroke me darling,' he'd say.''

:: The full interview appears in the January issue of GQ, out on Thursday.

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Ne-Yo Live In Manila’ at SM Mall of Asia - Manila Bulleting Online

Posted: 28 Nov 2009 09:01 PM PST

Eagerly awaited is the coming over of Ne-Yo in January 2010 which indeed promises to start the New Year with a big bang. Ne-Yo is of course the Ameircan pop and R&B singer-songwriter, record producer, and actor Shaffer Chimere Smith. His show aptly entitled, "Ne-Yo Live In Manila" will be held on Jan. 9, 2010.

Get to know more of the music icon from the following:

Ne-Yo emerged into the recording industry as a member of the Las Vegas-based Quartet Envy. After the group disbanded in 2000, Ne-Yo was signed up Columbia Records, but after recording his first album, was dropped from the label before he could even release it. American singer Marques Houston happened to hear one of Ne-Yo's tracks, "That Girl," which was supposed to be the latter's debut single off his then-unreleased album.

Houston re-recorded "That Girl" and released it as a single to his 2003 album MH. The release of the song led to Ne-Yo being recognized as a top songwriter.

For the next two years, Ne-Yo continued writing songs, some of which have not been officially released. He contributed songs to American singer Teedra Moses's 2004 album "Complex Simplicity," Christina Milian's "It's About Time," and the American boy band Youngstown, though all of which failed to give Ne-Yo much attention from the mainstream. Ne-Yo has also contributed songs to American singer Mary J. Blige, B2K, Faith Evans and Musiq, among others.

Ne-Yo broke into the industry after "Let Me Love You," a song he wrote for American singer Mario, reached No. 1 on The Billboard Hot 100, and later stayed on the top spot for nine weeks. After the successful release, Tina Davis, former A&R representative for Def Jam Recordings, arranged an informal meeting with label head L.A. Reid.

Originally, Ne-Yo was not seeking a new contract, but, after he had performed to them, he was signed up by American hip-hop artist Jay-Z, then-CEO of Def Jam. "Ne-Yo" was coined by a producer Ne-Yo once worked with, Big D Evans, because Evans claimed that Ne-Yo sees music as Neo. As a joke, Evans started calling him Ne-Yo until everybody was accustomed to it.

Since his debut, Ne-Yo has had five top 10 songs on The Billboard Hot 100 as a lead artist and two No. 1 albums on The Billboard 200. Ne-Yo has also amassed a catalog of chart-topping songs that he has written for other artists.

Ne-Yo broke into the recording industry as a songwriter, penning the hit "Let Me Love You" for singer Mario. The single's successful release in the US prompted an informal meeting between Ne-Yo and Def Jam's label head, and signing a recording contract.

In 2006, he released his debut album, "In My Own Words," which contained the US No. 1 hit "So Sick."

Then in 2007, he released his sophomore album, "Because Of You" which contained the US Top 3 hit, "Because Of You." In 2008, he released his third album, "Year Of The Gentleman," which contained the Top 10 hits "Closer" and "Miss Independent."

Ne-Yo's third album, "Year Of The Gentleman," was first released on Sept. 11, 2008, in Japan. The album sold 250,000 copies in its first week in the US, debuting on The Billboard 200 at No. 2.

Reviews for the album were positive: In one of which, Caryn Ganz of Rolling Stone Magazine wrote of him: "Actually a superb concept album about what a great boyfriend he [Ne-Yo] can be."

The first two singles, "Closer" and "Miss Independent," have peaked at No. 7 on The Billboard Hot 100. The album was nominated for Best Contemporary R&B album and Album Of The Year at the 2009 Grammy Awards, "Closer" for Best Male Pop Vocal Performance, and "Miss Independent" for Best Male R&B Vocal Performance and Best R&B Song. "Year Of The Gentleman" has been certified platinum By Riaa for a shipment of more than one million copies. The third single, "Mad," peaked at No. 11 on The Billboard Hot 100.

In September 2009, Ne-Yo released his greatest hits album "Ne-Yo: The Collection." The album was also released with a limited edition CD+DVD Edition complete with the music videos of singles.

His latest single "I Never Knew I Needed," original soundtrack of Walt Disney Pictures animated feature "The Princess And The Frog" is now available at all record bars nationwide.

Ne-Yo has also written songs for Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Anastacia, Ciara, Corbin Bleu, and Enrique Iglesias. He also collaborated with Lindsay Lohan on her new material, having already finished "Bossy," a pre-single for her new album "Spirit In The Dark." Ne-Yo confirmed that he had been contacted by producer Will.I.Am to work on what would have been Michael Jackson's new album.

Ne-Yo is backed up by an entourage of more than 30 artists composed of band members, dancers, lighting designers and special effects personnel. The 1 ½ hour show promises to sizzle with Eurasia, a group of beautiful, talented performers as his front act.

Special early bird tickets are available at Ticket World and at Alchemy and at Ticket World until Dec. 16 only. With prices at VVIP – P7,500, VIP – P5,500, Platinum – P4,000, Gold – P2,500, Silver – P1,500, Bronze – P500.

Tickets are available at Ticket World and at Alchemy in Silver City Corner Julia Vargas Ave.

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An emotional Mommy D meets idol Imelda Papin

Mommy Dionisia was teary-eyed and emotional when she finally met her idol Imelda Papin in Las Vegas, Nevada. The celebrity mom was fetched by a limousine, which was sent by her idol, and was driven to the Orleans Hotel and Casino where she was treated to a sumptuous dinner.

The international recording artist and music icon has been reaping praises and adulation for her world-class performances at the Orleans Hotel and Casino, where she is the only Filipino included in its roster of international artists such as Englebert Himperdinck, Gladys Knight, Neil Sedaka, Melissa Manchester, Boys II Men and Paul Anka, among others.

Imelda remarked that she was as thrilled as Mommy D in meeting her, adding that the latter should be commended for raising up and guiding her children towards the right path and direction. Now known by her other moniker "Pacmom," she has boasted that her ipod is filled with her idol's songs, where listening to it is her way of relaxing. She even showed her idol her terpsichorean skills by doing some nifty dance moves and finally launching into a duet with her idol with the era-defining hit "Bakit."

The two were also present during the mini concert of the newly crowned WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao. The Undisputed Jukebox Queen happily reported that she has recorded a duet with Mommy D, who gamely showed her musical pipes under 618 International Records, a division of 618 International Entertainment, Inc. Imelda also recorded her latest CD "Voice of the Heart" under the same recording company, which is distributed in the United States and Canada, while Philippine distribution is under Viva Records with the title "I Love You."

Hall of Famer Imelda arrived Sunday to prepare for her forthcoming performance with Grammy winner Melissa Manchester. It will be held at the PICC on Dec. 19. This is a special Christmas show that will surely delight fans and music lovers. The two had a successful three-day concert at the Orleans Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, which despite simultaneous shows from Beyoncé, Britney Spears, Rod Stewart and Donny and Marie Osmond, they drew in the crowds. The two international music icons were accorded a special commendation in fitting ceremonies by the mayor of Las Vegas due to their successful show.

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Tidbits: Happy b-day greetings Monday, Nov. 30, go to Justice Andres Narvasa, Rosalinda L. Orosa,Kristine Yang, Ladine Roxas, Norma Fontanilla, Justa K. Tantoco, Ma. Martha Sibal-Bonoan, Marian Campos, Bonn Mowie C. Lasaga, Lynn Villarosa, Lourdes S. Bautista, Dr. Alex Tensuan, California-based Lutgarda P. Landingin and Vincent P. Tuazon, Atty. Rudegelio D. Tacorda and twin brother Ronald of San Francisco, CA. and Ms. Cristina Decena, head of Rural Bank of Norzagaray… Happy wedding anniversary to Jun and Norie Basuel…

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It's OK patriarchy, I understand Adam Lambert made you feel funny - Feministing

Posted: 28 Nov 2009 06:59 PM PST

Adam Lambert, all glammed up, holds the back of a male band member's neck, going in for a kiss

So you may have heard Adam Lambert performed at the American Music Awards on Sunday (the video has been removed from YouTube). And then Good Morning America canceled his appearance on the show scheduled for this morning. Why?

"Given Adam Lambert's controversial live performance on the AMAs, we were concerned about airing a similar concert so early in the morning," a spokesperson for the network said.
Because Adam Lambert doesn't understand the difference between 11 at night and hour I don't want to be awake in the morning? The performance was apparently "controversial" because of some (very theatrically) simulated oral sex and a same sex kiss. Hasn't Janet Jackson incorporated simulated oral sex into her performances for years? Didn't Madonna, Britney Spears, and Christina Aguilera already do that same sex kiss thing? Bondage-themed performances seem old hat at awards shows (except, hmm, they are usually headlined by female performers). Seriously, what's the big deal?

Oh right. Adam Lambert's male. And gay (not just for pretend!).

In patriarchal culture we assume a (straight cis) male gaze. The Madonna/Britney kiss is not processed as a threat to straight male supremacy because it dovetails nicely with acceptable straight male desire. Women are seen as objects of male desire, and therefore the culturally acceptable object of sexual desire, period. So a same sex kiss between women is fine - maybe a little "controversial," but in a good way. Especially if the women kissing are perceived as straight and cisgender - Britney may have kissed a girl and liked it, but it was understood mostly as an act. After all, the kiss is more about male desire than the desire of the women actually involved. I'm sure there was some outrage over the Madonna performance, but even Rush Limbaugh focused his criticism on how Al Qaeda, which he presents as representing an inferior culture, would react to the kiss. I remember most of the reaction being more like ZOMG MADONNA AND BRITNEY KISSING SO HOT. Some folks in the media called the kiss a publicity stunt, but this view recognizes that a same sex kiss between women gets positive attention. The move seemed to help Britney's career, and was read as Madonna recognizing her as the queen of pop's successor (seriously Madonna, you couldn't wait for Beyoncé?).

Adam Lambert's performance, on the other hand, is seen as a threat, enough to have an appearance canceled on him. If audiences admitted they thought Adam Lambert leading a guy around on a leash, getting fake oral sex from a guy, and kissing a guy was hot it would call into question male supremacy as reinforced through heterosexuality. The number positioned men as the objects of male sexual desire, and men objectifying men calls the most simplistic understanding of gender hierarchy into question. I mean, if straight male viewers didn't let homophobia dictate their reactions, if they actually let themselves enjoy the performance that might make them *gasp* gay! It would at least complicate their understanding of desire. Plus the glam-inspired performance had a male presenting but femmed up Lambert dominating strong, muscular men. And we could never accept femme as empowering, especially for a dude person!

The view of this performance as controversial in a bad or icky way is down to a very traditional form of sexism, in which women can be objectified for a mainstream audience but men can only be objects of desire if it's in a clearly heterosexual situation (and usually one that reinforces gender norms and power dynamics - Twilight, for obvious example). When folks react negatively to this performance it's clear something got to them. Hey male gaze, your arousal is showing.

Related:

Feministing Community blogger erin-tc points out that the double standard regarding male and female displays of homosexuality, which Adam Lambert called out during an interview on the CBS Morning Show today, was repeated in that show's coverage.

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I'm all for fucking with preconceptions about gender in the media, but I'm not going to laud a performance where a man drags women around by their legs and leads kneeling people around on leashes like dogs. Remember the outrage a few years ago when Snoop Dog pulled a similar stunt? The fact that it's a queer man participating in a transgressive and dehumanzing portrayal of sexuality doesn't make it any less offensive.

I have to agree. I didn't find anything original or artistic about the performance and the vocals were atrocious.

Lambert and his people would have had to been pretty naive if they didn't anticipate this uproar -- precisely because there was similar hullabaloo with his predecessors (Jackson, Spears, Madonna etc.) Only he upped the ante and did all these women did and more. So for the reaction to be greater makes some sense.

All these charges of homophobia and sexism in the media probably have some validity. Yet on the opposite side, I sincerely wonder how many of those who defend this performance would do the same if the performer had been straight cis male etc.

To me ( much like the Details magazine photoshoot) it is just another tired ploy to attract attention with gratuitous sensationalism. It's more media that links sex with violence. I'm not sure that's a good thing.

No, I'm still not going to applaud this performance. What about the part at the beginning where Adam, a man, was dragging a woman around the stage by her leg? You know, the part that the press has been noticeably silent about. The more I read, the more it pisses me off, because it's just further proof that to society, it's A-OK and completely non-notable to represent women in this submissive, object-of-extreme-dominance position.

Bring on the BDSM choreography! I thought it was hot. And let's be clear, he was "dominating" men and women... so it's not a "Woman need to be submissive always!!1!!1" thing, it's a sexual power-play thing.

I'm not anti-BDSM. I'm just being realistic; 95% of the audience is not going to view it that way. If anything, it's co-opting that imagery to fit into a mold where women as slaves are considered "hot."

"If anything, it's co-opting that imagery to fit into a mold where women as slaves are considered "hot."

Are you just choosing to ignore the fact that he also dragged men around by leashes? Adam dominated both men and women in his performance. It was not a celebration of the degradation of women, but rather a portrayal of erotic BDSM and powerplay that went beyond gender boundaries. For Adam and a lot of other people, portraying people as slaves is erotic and hot, and in this performance both men and women filled the submissive role.

I understand that lots of people are offended and put off by BDSM, but to be up in arms that women were degraded in the performance while ignoring the fact that men were degraded as well is just disingenuous. Is BDSM wrong only in certain contexts? Is it ok for a man to enjoy being submissive, but completely wrong and unfeminist for a woman to enjoy it too?

No, and you're completely missing the point. That aspect of the performance, the men on leashes, has been pretty roundly lambasted by the press. But when it comes to a woman being dragged around by her leg? Nobody cares! It's business as usual in the patriarchy. This is not about BDSM. Jesus christ.

Yes, because in a performance where male dancers get manhandled twice as much as the female dancers, the audience is naturally going to decide that Adam Lambert is saying submissive women are hot.

It's funny how an awful lot of people who "aren't against BDSM" get really uncomfortable when anything with an even slightly BDSM-flavor makes it into the mainstream.

It's about context. Again, 95% of the audience probably isn't even aware of the BDSM scene. They don't know the acronym. Their only association, if pressed, would be "Oh, women being tied up. Hot!"

And as another poster said, the AMAs and ABC don't give a shit about BDSM or sexual expression. They care about ratings and any potential losses to their ratings. That's why the parts with women have gone mostly unmentioned; because patriarchy thinks that's A-OK, and it isn't harmful to ratings.

yeah i have to agree with the above two commenters on this one. i read that the people who disapprove of the performance objected not to the same-sex kiss (who knows if theyre tellin the truth on that though) but to the simulated oral sex act. that and the pullin of the woman by the leg was crazy for me. and id like to see a clip of janet jackson doing such an explicit act like "theatrically" receiving oral, becuz shes sexual.. but i dont think shes ever done that

I've seen Janet, in multiple concerts, simulate vaginal-penile sex, and she often restrains, straddles, dry-humps, and directly grabs the crotches of chosen audience members. In that way, because she seems to act without receiving consent, she's far far far more inappropriate than Lambert was IMO.

Everyone has seen Janet do that in concert, she did it to great effect in her HBO Velvet Rope concert. But the difference is that one is a premium, adult oriented channel, while the other is a mainstream (supposedly) family acceptable program. There's certainly a strong homophobic element to complaints, and if Lambert had left it at kissing a guy, he'd have an argument but simulated oral sex? At a prime time awards show on ABC??? It might've been 11p in NYC, but it was still prime time everywhere west of there. This wasn't a gay rights statement by Lambert as much as it was pure sensationalism for his career (and it worked!) ...And part of this is just the tendency of ALL parents to be uncomfortable with anything sexual. You know how many complaints network TV & the NFL get about erectile dysfunction??? Enough that some 2 bit congressman (liberal Dem if I recall) wants to pass a law against it.

"id like to see a clip of janet jackson doing such an explicit act like "theatrically" receiving oral, becuz shes sexual.. but i dont think shes ever done that"

Here you go: Janet Jackson theatrically receiving oral in a music video back in 1994.

This is a great post. The media's double standards on Adam's sexuality vs female pop singers' sexualities just angers me. I see nothing controversial about his act onstage (although I don't care for his music, which is a different story).

I hope Adam Lambert will continue to piss off the conservative public with even more risque sexual acts onstage. I look forward to it.

I see your Adam Lambert and raise you a Zumanity... lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCWB57Lo-g

This video provoked an interesting discussion at one of our house parties, where a bunch of us were discussing a recent dance we had done for Social Theatre. I had borrowed some choreographed elements from this clip of "2 Men". So we brought out the laptop and showed it to everyone.

One not-so-progressive male (the rest were cool with it, or pretended to be), took offense and stated that he didn't want to see two men kissing. When challenged, he claimed he was fine with 'gay people', but saw no reason why he should have to see it.

"But why do you feel like you get to dictate what can be seen?", he was asked, and had no answer but a snarky "Well, what do you want me to say? Because I'm a boy?"

so yeah.

Adam Lambert's choreography came off as abusive and violent. The kiss was one thing; the rest of his performance was degrading to the dancers -- both male and female. Just because media and pop culture don't rise up and object over certain female performers' acts doesn't mean I should applaud a male performer's act that I find equally offensive and objectifying.

I never even thought about the sexist implications of this; I thought it was just homophobia. Excellent points, thank you for bringing it to my attention :)

I do agree that there's an incredible double standard between bi-curious girls and actual gay men in our media.

That being said, Adam's performance WAS pretty garish, in the same way Janet Jackson's or Britney's or Madonna's performances have been garish. It's something common I've seen with artists on MTV generating controversy: they don't really care about it's societal context, more just a way to get ratings and album sales. This is why I didn't care much about Madonna kissing Britney and Christina, or any other stunt she's pulled. Madonna doesn't care about societal commentary, she's just pushing buttons for publicity. Adam was doing the same thing and he knew it.

And just a silly thought, the guy Adam's kissing in the picture actually reminds me of a lesbian I knew in college. Is that weird?

I'm a feminist woman with a disability-I do disability and arts advocacy, worked at Planned Parenthood, etc-I give LOTS of latitude to expressive performance and inclusion. But this whole BS performance has gotten way too much attention, including this article.

Adam is on the make for his 15 minutes of fame, before he has to figure out a *real* way to make a living in this world like the rest of us.

His so-called performance was offensive-and for once I may agree with the 'patriarchy' if that's what people are labeled who happen to prefer a little talent with their performing arts. I really dislike being categorized as such, due to having standards that don't include mindlessly condoning the latest headline-grabbing moment of fame.

"a *real* way to make a living" = not doing something you enjoy.

There is definitely homophobia colouring the discussions surrounding his performance, of course. But like others have said, there were legitimately troubling aspects of it as well. The "kiss" with the keyboardist was clearly non-consensual. And I do understand why people would object to seeing the oral sex thing on network tv at a relatively early hour. I consider myself to be sex-positive, but I do understand if others objected to such a graphic depiction of a sex act on network TV at that time.

I think Jos' analysis here is excellent, but I also agree with many of the commenters' criticisms of the objectification in the performance. What I'd like to hear is a real explanation of exactly what the network folks find troublesome. The generic explanations don't lead to the type of meaningful conversations we could be having (beyond the activist-type folks around here).

Some people like to be laid down nicely on soft white sheets and make sweet, tender love to the person they care about, some people like being tied up, whipped, and put on leashes by the person they care about. There are hundreds of thousands of people who practice s/m all over the world and it is not demoralizing or degrading. It is their personal choice and I would like to believe that those progressive enough to be a part of the feministing community would accept all forms of sexual desire.

NEWSFLASH: even some feminists like to be dominated in bed. (Just don't ask me to cook for you afterwards)

but that is all besides the point. If you're enraged about Adam Lambert's artistic expression or the media with which he chose to display it then I sure hope you don't have the following people on your ipod: Prince, Madonna, Micheal and Janet Jackson, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Pink, Shakira, or even the effing Rent soundtrack. Basically anyone awesome has toyed with s/m in their lyrics, videos, performances, or photo shoots a few times. Sex and pain are artistic, get over it.

And for the record, the woman "Adam, a man, was dragging around the stage by her leg" WAS A DANCER and that was a DANCE MOVE.

This is bogus.

I also like to cook.

No one is criticizing Adam Lambert for expressing his sexuality, the criticism comes from the fact that the performance was not "personal expression", it was a big-budget choreographed spectacle designed specifically to exploit the stereotype of the dominating, predatory, gay male. Do you really think ABC or the AMA's give a shit about sexual expression or queer politics? Of course not. Lambert's performance was transgressive and explotive. The fact that it involved a queerman doesn't lessen it's contribution to Rape Culture.

And don't patronize us, of course everything was consensual and everyone got paid. I'm sure those women Snoop Dog borught to the Grammy's on dog leashes got paid too.

Okay is everyone forgetting that he shoved not only a man but a woman into his crotch as well? IDK what to make of it just wondering what you all are thinking. If it's BDSM play or w/e I guess it's okay but I don't think there's any excusing his fingering one woman onstage. I would be okay with it if it was consensual and they had talked about it beforehand but he did say that he was just going with the flow or whatever so I'm gonna guess he didn't ask the female dancer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk-kBZo0Obk

It's at about 3:07. Other videos might give you a clearer picture of what he did.

here is some spanking, grinding, and even pushing faces in her crotch via everyone's fave gal JANET.

for those of you who aren't offended by something like dancing and sex, enjoy it.


"relax it's just sex"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS90IqpL3dE

Since I've read that everyone involved in his performance consented and everything was coreographed beforehand, I'm not totally clear on why there is so much outrage. He didn't abuse anyone. Maybe he did something that could be abuse in some cases, but since this wasn't abuse, I struggle with why it's offensive.

Also as feminists we are sex positive. so why would we suddenly get upset about a depiction of a sex act? Isn't that what the conservative right is for?

Personally I loved the performance!

Sorry. I can't get on board with the sexualization of violence. I'm not a feminist because I want to defy the conservative right; I'm a feminist because I think that women are people and people don't deserve to have violence against them be depicted as sexy.

The pro-BDSM-esque performance crowd might have a point if violence against women wasn't already considered a sexy thing to the point that we can't prosecute rapists and mainstream television shows in primetime can show images of rape and abuse without complaint. As a sexual submissive, I get BDSM. But as someone who was raped by my play partner, I don't think that we need to actively spread the violence is sexy meme.

The audience can't tell the difference between consent and non-consent: the fact that many people watching read this performance as non-consensual, including me, indicates that without explicit depiction of consent, the types of performance that Lambert used are indistinguishable from depictions of truly non-consensual acts. There's nothing transgressive or progressive about depicting non-consensual sex when such depictions are ubiquitous.

Am I the only one who was more offended by the lack of depth to the lyrics, horrible computerized production, sad beat, and general lack of artistry in the song? That was terrible. Adam Lambert is a huge talent with an amazing voice. How was that piece of crap he just took onstage supposed to be his big break? I mean, BDSM is an interesting subject matter and that was one of the least titilating things I've ever seen. Even though he looked great, nothing about that was hot. After watching that crapfest, I can't even get into any analysis regarding implications about sex, gender or feminism. It's like, who cares? That sucked.

Actually, I was more offended by the HAIR. The 80's are DEAD, people - can we please let them decay in peace? ;-)

I already posted this on the earlier post about Adam, but here it is again just for the hell of it:

Wait, so why are we happy about this Adam Lambert performance again? Just because he's a gay man that is openly displaying his sexuality?

That's all well and good, but it doesn't change the fact that he's being defined solely by his sexuality, at least in this performance. I think that sexualizing men in such a strong way can be just as dangerous as sexualizing women.

For me, this isn't an issue of censorship or his performance being 'inappropriate.' It's about who he is to his fans and to the people that watched the AMA's. His performance was about literally nothing but sex, and whether gay or straight, man or woman, that's not something that should be embraced. What about, say...his music? (Which I don't like, I'm just saying...)

I'm totally down with performances about 'literally nothing but sex.' (Although the AMAs might not be the best venue.)

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